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		<title>Comment on Posting Charts to the SCC Blog by Ufoceleb</title>
		<link>http://jweshleman.wordpress.com/2006/03/31/11/#comment-3097</link>
		<dc:creator>Ufoceleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Пресса вчера и сегодня о непознанном и встречах с нло, доказательства, существование древних цивилизаций.</p>
<p><a href="http://ufoceleb.org.ru" rel="nofollow">Аномалии</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Charting versus &#8220;Junk Behaviorism&#8221; by Fielding J. Hurst</title>
		<link>http://jweshleman.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/charting-versus-junk-behaviorism/#comment-3094</link>
		<dc:creator>Fielding J. Hurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice essay.  This post is like a college thesis!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice essay.  This post is like a college thesis!  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Frequency Jumps and Celeration Turns by Regina F.</title>
		<link>http://jweshleman.wordpress.com/2007/08/20/frequency-jumps-and-celeration-turns/#comment-992</link>
		<dc:creator>Regina F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 06:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey John,
Thanks for the pictures of the jumps and turns.
Q: How do you generate the illustrations?

It&#039;s nice to see you blogging again.
Regina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John,<br />
Thanks for the pictures of the jumps and turns.<br />
Q: How do you generate the illustrations?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice to see you blogging again.<br />
Regina</p>
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		<title>Comment on In Appreciation of the Frequency Finder by Regina F.</title>
		<link>http://jweshleman.wordpress.com/2006/03/24/in-appreciation-of-the-frequency-finder/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Regina F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I want to find out ...whether Frequency Finder is still being taught anymore.&quot;

Well, I guess you just did :-), since I have just been practicing the examples. I would say with the advent of the calculator, that charting the data points is simplified, but the really cool aspect, to me at least, is using the finder to determine the celeration, which on a finer comb scale than the scale on the chart itself. I would say that in the intro workshops that I have attended that the Frequency Finder was not mentioned but I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s a representative sample.

I run timings with my older daughter, but I do more recordings with my younger. As we use the SCC more I will have to use the Frequency Finder and see how much it simplifies the calculations.

Thanks for the tutorial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I want to find out &#8230;whether Frequency Finder is still being taught anymore.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I guess you just did <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> , since I have just been practicing the examples. I would say with the advent of the calculator, that charting the data points is simplified, but the really cool aspect, to me at least, is using the finder to determine the celeration, which on a finer comb scale than the scale on the chart itself. I would say that in the intro workshops that I have attended that the Frequency Finder was not mentioned but I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s a representative sample.</p>
<p>I run timings with my older daughter, but I do more recordings with my younger. As we use the SCC more I will have to use the Frequency Finder and see how much it simplifies the calculations.</p>
<p>Thanks for the tutorial.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Calculating Frequency with &#8216;Dead Air Time&#8217; by John Eshleman</title>
		<link>http://jweshleman.wordpress.com/2006/03/24/calculating-frequency-with-dead-air-time/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>John Eshleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dick, sorry for the delay in getting back to you.  

You raise some good points.  My point had more to do with how we measure frequency.  When do we start the clock?  When do we stop it? What is the actual frequenc of the behavior?

The &quot;dead air time&quot; refers to time when the behavior of interest has either stopped, but the clock continues to run, or to time before the behavior of interest has started, but the clock&#039;s already been started.

One way around this, of course, would be to use a cumulative record, because you can then excise off the flat portion of the record before or after the run of the behavior.  That solution would work, in concept.  Except that hardly anyone uses cumulative records anymore, and there aren&#039;t any convenient ways of generating them outside the operant laboratory. (Perhaps cell phones, PDA&#039;s, or iPods, even, could be applied to this purpose some day.)

The upshot of all this is that it&#039;s possible to derive frequencies that do not depend entirely on the behavior of the organism; frequencies that are a joint measurement product of the behavior and of the recording method used.  -- JE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick, sorry for the delay in getting back to you.  </p>
<p>You raise some good points.  My point had more to do with how we measure frequency.  When do we start the clock?  When do we stop it? What is the actual frequenc of the behavior?</p>
<p>The &#8220;dead air time&#8221; refers to time when the behavior of interest has either stopped, but the clock continues to run, or to time before the behavior of interest has started, but the clock&#8217;s already been started.</p>
<p>One way around this, of course, would be to use a cumulative record, because you can then excise off the flat portion of the record before or after the run of the behavior.  That solution would work, in concept.  Except that hardly anyone uses cumulative records anymore, and there aren&#8217;t any convenient ways of generating them outside the operant laboratory. (Perhaps cell phones, PDA&#8217;s, or iPods, even, could be applied to this purpose some day.)</p>
<p>The upshot of all this is that it&#8217;s possible to derive frequencies that do not depend entirely on the behavior of the organism; frequencies that are a joint measurement product of the behavior and of the recording method used.  &#8212; JE</p>
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		<title>Comment on Calculating Frequency with &#8216;Dead Air Time&#8217; by Dick Briggs</title>
		<link>http://jweshleman.wordpress.com/2006/03/24/calculating-frequency-with-dead-air-time/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Briggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

The issue is right on target, in particular if you are building duration.  However, the concept should also be used to better identifying minute behaviors and possible relationships/intervention plans.

I would suggest keeping the SSC but instead of the vertical lines being daily, use them for time slices.  This would allow one to observer behavior across time slices but during the same intervention.

Quick analogy.  Micowave pop corn.
Use the vertical lines in several charts, such as 5 seconds, 10 seconds, 30 seconds, 1 minute, 5 minutes (burned results).

Time the popping of one bag.  Chart the number of kernals popped (and maybe unpopped) for each time slice and compare the results.  Can you notice a difference between timing slices?  If so, can an intervention be designed to increase or decrease the pattern.

Example:  Petit mall - during stimuls/response activity, would comparing various time slice charts better pinpoint the &quot;dead air&quot;?  How often are they occurring, what is triggering, what intervention would be best?

Example:  Knee surgery and rehab.  Sitting down, raise leg to be parallel to the floor.  Do you do 3 sets of 10 repetitions over x minutes?  How much rest between sets is most helpful in meeting the goal?  How fast should each leg lift be performed.  Do I do a burst  of leg lifts with 3 second intervals?  Do I do them with 5 second intervals?  Initially and over time, which therapy program would result in quicker healing.  

I have to tun to help my neighbor move.  I&#039;ll think of more examples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>The issue is right on target, in particular if you are building duration.  However, the concept should also be used to better identifying minute behaviors and possible relationships/intervention plans.</p>
<p>I would suggest keeping the SSC but instead of the vertical lines being daily, use them for time slices.  This would allow one to observer behavior across time slices but during the same intervention.</p>
<p>Quick analogy.  Micowave pop corn.<br />
Use the vertical lines in several charts, such as 5 seconds, 10 seconds, 30 seconds, 1 minute, 5 minutes (burned results).</p>
<p>Time the popping of one bag.  Chart the number of kernals popped (and maybe unpopped) for each time slice and compare the results.  Can you notice a difference between timing slices?  If so, can an intervention be designed to increase or decrease the pattern.</p>
<p>Example:  Petit mall &#8211; during stimuls/response activity, would comparing various time slice charts better pinpoint the &#8220;dead air&#8221;?  How often are they occurring, what is triggering, what intervention would be best?</p>
<p>Example:  Knee surgery and rehab.  Sitting down, raise leg to be parallel to the floor.  Do you do 3 sets of 10 repetitions over x minutes?  How much rest between sets is most helpful in meeting the goal?  How fast should each leg lift be performed.  Do I do a burst  of leg lifts with 3 second intervals?  Do I do them with 5 second intervals?  Initially and over time, which therapy program would result in quicker healing.  </p>
<p>I have to tun to help my neighbor move.  I&#8217;ll think of more examples.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Communicating about Standard Celeration Charts and PT by Regina F.</title>
		<link>http://jweshleman.wordpress.com/2006/03/23/communicating-about-standard-celeration-charts-and-pt/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Regina F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything beyond &quot;excellent&quot; and &quot;thank you&quot; would be superfluous.

I&#039;ll steer folks here :-).
Regina F.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything beyond &#8220;excellent&#8221; and &#8220;thank you&#8221; would be superfluous.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll steer folks here <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .<br />
Regina F.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hello world! by Giordana Hrga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giordana Hrga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for opportunity to participate! I recently submitted my doctoral disseration titled: &quot;The Child Knows Best. The Strategies and Tactics of Accelerated Learning.&quot; Assuming it meets the approval of the Examiners, I will make copies available to interested parties. I look forward to SCC &amp; PT discussion. Cheers, Ciordana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for opportunity to participate! I recently submitted my doctoral disseration titled: &#8220;The Child Knows Best. The Strategies and Tactics of Accelerated Learning.&#8221; Assuming it meets the approval of the Examiners, I will make copies available to interested parties. I look forward to SCC &amp; PT discussion. Cheers, Ciordana.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Mr WordPress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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